Talk:Dhaka Medical College and Hospital

Foreign students

To the best of my knowledge, DMC doesn't admit foreign students (the only medical college in the country not to do so). At least this was the situation 4 years ago. So, is the statement about Kashmir/nepali students correct? Thanks. --Ragib 07:17, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

In the above section the editor has depended on 'the best of his knowledge'. But he should have checked the college records before giving such an opinion. A number of foreign students are now being admitted this year from India, Pakistan, Nepal during the last 4 years - according to college records. Thus Dhaka Medical College is offering its education worldwide and keeping its reputaiton globally. Janib (K-58).

Thanks for the information. As you can see, I do not have any way of knowing what happened in the last 4 years, and hence the "to the best of my knowledge". DMC doesn't have a website (or does it?) that could have enlightened any curious editor about this piece of info. But again, thanks for the update. --Ragib 02:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

i am a sri lankan i have pass my g.c.e.a/l examination on 1996 and i am a unani medical degree holder provided by university of colombo in 2006 naw i like to study the medical eithe it is a undergraguat or post graguat.so can you tell me whether you have any sach a opotunity to do this in your university if it is so can you tell me hove to got it or atherwise what is the best idia to me.can you send me this infomation in to my e-mail aatnazleen@yahoo.com. thank you.−−Aatnazleen 06:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)aatnazleen.

To Ragib, I saw foreign students admitted in DMC from the year 1998. Throughout my stay there from a student up to my Internship and Residency training in Internal medicine (that counts more than 7 years in total), I saw a good number of Students from India, Pakistan, Nepal, Kashmir. But DMC is the top-ranked Medical College in Bangladesh. So it cannot take all the foreign students who applies here. So many foreign students go to other medical colleges as well as the private medical colleges. Regarding official web-site: Yes they have one.

To Srilankan applicant: For undergraduate degree (MBBS), all the medical colleges in Bangladesh takes students only within 2 chances (that is 2 years after completing you 12 years study). Like for admission in the year 2009-2010, a student must have completed his 12 year school not before 2008. For Postgraduation, I dont know if they accept Unani medicine. May be you have to try to some Unani medical college.

-Habib (Batch K-56, DMC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Habib836 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, does it mean DMC has started taking foreign students after K-54? Because, as far as I know, my yearmates who were in K-54 didn't have any foreign students. And there was some sort of student agitation when there was a proposal to take foreign students. --Ragib (talk) 01:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

To Ragib: I am not sure about batch K-54. But I saw foreign students in K-55. So far i know, foreign students are to be selected by their own Governments, then Ministry of Health will send the list of foreign students to Directorate General of Health services and they will place the recommended foreign students to different medical colleges. There is possibility that no foreign student may get admission to DMC in some year (the official may not find them suitable by reviewing their papers). They might go to SSMC (which was regarded so far as the 2nd best next to DMC), MMC (Mymenshing Medical College), Khaleda Zia Medical College (Newly formed in Dhaka), Chittagong Medical Colleges and so on. I think there were foreign students in DMC before K-54, but sorry I don`t have particular information at present. -Habib —Preceding unsigned comment added by Habib836 (talk • contribs) 01:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

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Article Name

The name of the article can be (i think, it should be) 'Dhaka Medical College' in lieu of Dhaka Medical College and Hospital.

The article speaks mainly about the college, though it has a section about the hospital facility. After the establishment of the college, hospital was set as an affiliated clinical learning wing for the Medical College students which eventually turns out to be the largest healthcare facility in Bangladesh. Moreover, the same faculties from different disciplines of the college act as clinical and administrative superiors at the hospital.

In reference, I would like to mention the wiki articles of Chittagong Medical College, Mymensingh Medical College and other public medical colleges of Bangladesh which structurally and functionally follow the similar prototypes.

'Dhaka Medical College Hospital' (there is no 'and' in hospital's official name) can be redirected to the article 'Dhaka Medical College' for the readers.

Thank you. Dknoir84 (talk) 10:31, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Your proposal sounds sensible. However, I would keep the present name (with "and") as a redirect (especially if there are other articles linking to this article as presently named. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

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Departments and heads are not encyclopedic content

The "Departments" section added by M.parvage in this edit is not encyclopedic content.

1. Listing departments is unnecessarily repetitive, because the ones at one tier 3 teaching hospital will be mostly the same as those at every other tier 3 teaching hospital (cardiology, neurology, obstetrics, oncology, pediatrics, radiology, etc.).
2. Wikipedia is not a directory. An encyclopedic treatment of departments might mention noteworthy ones within the description of the college's history, particularly if they involved new funding, new construction, or medical advances.
3. Who heads each department is volatile information that could change tomorrow and easily becomes dated. Encyclopedias are better at recording information that never changes, or changes at well publicized (and preferably infrequently) intervals.
4. Who heads each department is excessive detail. Other encyclopedias don't list the information (Banglapedia, for example).[1] Featured articles on Wikipedia don't list it (Pomona College, for example).
5. Who heads each department is promotional.
   • The information appears only on DMCH's website. That's often a good indicator that it's irrelevant to anyone other than their communications and marketing department. The bulk of any Wikipedia article should come from independent sources.
   • The heads are not notable. Only one of the 22 names links to a Wikipedia biography, and it's one that M.parvage just wrote. That article has a boatload of problems too, but I'll leave it to be addressed by someone else or at another time.
   • Wikipedia's Manual of Style instructs editors not to use academic and professional titles or degrees (such as "Doctor", "Professor", or PhD) before or after names.

   This may seem strange to someone from a culture where such titles are normally used. Fifty years ago in West Germany, for instance, one would never have referred to a male professor except by the almost militaristic "Herr Doktor Professor". The use of such titles is less common in Commonwealth countries (the Dictionary of National Biography, for example, avoids them), and is even more rare in the United States, where it would sound like sycophancy.

   In any case, the English-language Wikipedia has adopted a standard of not using them. One can see the style in action at such articles as List of Nobel laureates by country.

For these reasons, the departments section is inappropriate. Consequently, I've removed it. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Worldbruce, Thank you for your feedback and for bringing up your concerns regarding my edit on the "Departments" section. I understand your points on what Wikipedia is not, and I apologize if the content did not meet the standards of encyclopedic content.But I would like to address your concerns and provide some clarifications:

1. Repetitiveness and not being encyclopedic: I acknowledge that listing departments can be seen as repetitive, as they may be similar across different institutions. I intended to provide a comprehensive overview of the departments to give readers a better understanding of the institution. However, I now understand that such information might be better suited within the context of the college's history or significant developments.
2. Volatile information and excessive detail: You are correct that the heads of departments can change over time, and it may become outdated quickly. I understand that encyclopedias aim to provide information that remains constant or changes infrequently. Considering this, I agree that listing the heads of each department may not be necessary.
3. Promotional nature & source reliability: I understand your concern about the promotional aspect of listing department heads. While it wasn't my intention to promote any specific individuals. I will make sure to use more reputable sources when adding information to articles.
4. Use of academic and professional titles: I appreciate your explanation regarding the use of academic and professional titles. I will keep in mind the English-language Wikipedia's style guide, which advises against using such titles. However, it's worth noting that different cultural practices and conventions may influence the use of titles in various contexts.

Based on your feedback and the points you raised, I understand that the "Departments" section as I added it was not appropriate. I appreciate your diligence in maintaining the quality of the content. If there are any other suggestions or changes you recommend regarding this or your mentioned article, please let me know. Thank you again for your feedback. PARVAGE ^talk! 06:49, 5 July 2023 (UTC)